The Context Was We Were Getting Beaten Up

How much interest do you think there is among the various factions in Iraq in the plan that you're talking about

? I know from my personal experience and my seven trips there, and Puni Talwar (sp) who handles Iraq for me is here -- he White Shiny Metallic Sexy Trousers is literally in constant contact on a daily basis -- it's not an exaggeration, is it, Puni?, with various factions and leaders within Iraq -- Sunni, Shi'a, and Muslim who we -- I mean -- excuse me, Sunni, Shi'a and Kurd with whom we've built relationships over the last five years, and there are a whole lot of people in Iraq who have reached that conclusion. You know, they used to have an expression when I was in catholic school. You get in trouble, the nuns would make you write 500 times on the board when they make you stay after school, and I used to say, "But Sister, I thought," and she'd write -- she said, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." And the other one you had to write was, "Everyone can solve a problem except he who has it." The truth of the matter is those in power now in Iraq are incapable of generating a consensus government but they're also incapable on their own initiative to give up that power. There's an awful lot of people -- Sunni, Shi'a, and Kurd -- who know the only answer lies in local control within a limited central government within defined boundaries. When interviewed on NPR, you stated that politicians authorizing the use of force in Iraq mirrored viewpoints expressed in the editorial pages of many major newspapers, yet the media lacked access to a great deal of classified information that would have been available to senators. Do politicians or the media bear the greater burden of skepticism here? My point wasn't to blame the media. My point was when I asked a question, they said, "Everybody knew this." This reporter said everybody knew. I said, "Everybody knew?" What about all those editorial boards who were writing about what in fact I spoke about, which was that the whole purpose -- if you go back and read the resolution authorizing the use of force, it was extremely conditional. It was conditioned and the purpose of it was to avoid war. The purpose of it was to get U.N. inspectors back in. The purpose was to force the rest of the world to screw down the sanctions on Saddam. Remember the context which we all forget. The context was we were getting beaten up -- up and about the head by foreign -- by journalists in foreign countries, by leaders in foreign countries as well as by the Left in this country -- that we were causing all the death of all those children. We were the reason why they had no hospital supplies. We were the reason why this was awful. We had to Black And Brown Latex Catsuit lift the arms embargo. I remember Paul Wellstone and others talking about it. Wonderful people -- wonderful people. And the whole purpose was how can you get the United Nations to insist upon the reintroduction -- insist upon the reintroduction of inspectors -- insist upon the Iraqis keeping the commitments and the 14 resolutions that they essentially signed onto. That was the context. The context was to avoid war. The president as late as the fall -- as lately as being -- guaranteed me personally and others that he had no intention of going to war. It took what, from September until March before that occurred, but the way everybody talks about it now it's like everybody knew this president was going to take us to war the day after. He had acted responsibly after Afghanistan. Remember all of you press people writing and calling people like me in December the year before -- has Bush become an internationalist? Remember that whole -- that whole orgy of has he become an internationalist -- every major paper in America? You all kind of forget that, you know. And so the question was why didn't we know? The reason we didn't know is there are people like me who believe that Powell, the chairman -- the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others who we dealt with every day who we knew did not want to go to war, did not -- the military did not want to go to war -- who we knew -- we assumed this was a competition for the heart and mind of the president. Little did we know, and the tragic mistake I made was underestimating the influence of Cheney as well as Rumsfeld, and under -- overestimating the competence of this administration. Had I known then how incompetent they would turn out to be, and how misleading they would be engaging in the commitments that they made under that resolution, I would have never given them that authority. But had I been president, I would have asked for the authority. I would not have used it, but I would have asked for the authority to demonstrate to the world America is Black And White Latex Catsuit united, and the answer wasn't lifting the embargo on Saddam. The answer was screwing down the sanctions and getting inspectors back in. And that's the context in which this took place. That was the context of the answer. The question basically was we all knew he was going to go to war. Well, no one was writing it at the time and it had nothing to do with classified information. I shouldn't say no one -- few were writing it.

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