I was a popular prime minister, people liked me. I was a new face, a new excitement.
(Were you after Menzies?)
Yes, he was so 'stuck up'. I was more liberal. My ways, my views. I wasn't as serious. He was still worried about the war. I felt the war was over. I was a little naive looking back. There were some communist problems. Some of the people that were problems, - I ?was associated with. Now there's ?something for those who want to check this out - this wasn't common knowledge - that will show this is genuine. But there were some problems in Australia that did come out in later years. If you look back, I was associated with them. But I wasn't part of them, and I didn't know about it. I was unaware of it.
(Were the communists a threat then?)
I don't think so. In the same way that American was very guarded against the whole communist, Russia, China, cold war, all the things that came later - they were protecting themselves, and I'm sure they had spies which at the time would have been of enormous concern to those countries, and perhaps, would still be a concern today. But they weren't trying to take over the country.They weren't trying to fight them. They were trying to reaffirm their safety. ?I think that's what the problem was in the 60-70-80's I think it was more a case of those countries trying to check they were okay. They were just as scared of us as we were of them, and the best way to know what was going on was to get it from the top and hear what's going to happen.
(Do you think you did a good job?)
Well I wasn't there long! Really. It takes a while to get things going. People think being PM is like, click your fingers and everything changes. But it doesn't. I think it takes 2 years before, as a Prime Minister, you can look back and think "I'm starting to change things". And that's no different today with Kevin (Rudd). It takes a while to get what you want, to start to happen.
(Why?)
I think people are so locked into their ways. They want change, but they don't really want change. Whitlam was a perfect example. The nation so badly wanted change. But when that change came, they weren't sure they wanted it. I'm sure he felt popular, and liked, and right in what he was trying to do, but I don't think it's too hard to read the history books and find that Australia generally was concerned about his changes. People don't what that much change......
(Did you bring about a lot of changes?)
I think I brought about a freshness. I don't think I actually changed much. I tried to bring about a change in thinking. To put new eyes on things. And I think I did that. I think that's why, when I disappeared, the nation was so shocked. It's a bit like JFK. Looking back, some wonder if he DID do the best thing for the country at the time, but he was liked, was popular, and was trying to do the right thing, and as a result of that, the country was terribly shocked.
(Your disappearance in the ocean?)
I went into the ocean. I LOVED to swim, I loved the ocean. I loved the fury of the water. I loved fighting it.I loved that feeling. I know it scares people, but I loved it. Just that FIGHTING of the waves, you have to overcome nature. I LOVED that. I loved being stronger than nature. Many thought I was foolish. I wasn't. I knew exactly what I was doing. The one thing I didn't know, about that day, was that there was a very strong undercurrent. I didn't know that, and I got caught in it. I got caught in it at a time when no-one was really looking for me. At me. And the surface was very rough. It was impossible to see anybody there. Whether they were there or not. And in a split second I was pulled under, and then a wave raised me. I don't believe I broke through the water, but I was raised rapidly and then slammed down on my stomach, and my stomach, and lower chest hit a rock, very hard. I immediately doubled over in pain, and any action that my arms could have performed disappeared. I was in excruciating pain. I realized I was under the water, and I had to do something. I tried to swim. I couldn't. The pain was too great. As I tried to stretch my arms out to swim, the pain was too much. I guessing my ribs were broken.
(Were you bleeding?)
It was only superficial bleeding. It was more internal.
(As in 'internal injuries)
No it was internal as in pain, and a broken rib, but I don't feel like there was anything inside would have caused my death. Then I was pulled under the water, and held under the water, and I was trying to get above the water to breathe, which really annoyed me, because I know I'm strong enough to do that, but I couldn't make my arms move enough. It wasn't long before - I couldn't. I just floated mentally away. I felt myself leaving myself, and I could see my body being swept along. It was reported that they didn't see me. Wrong. I bobbed up on the water a couple of times. They would have been able to see me, but they wouldn't have because of the fury of the water. One of them would remember that. Thinking, imagining for a moment they saw me, but dropped the idea thinking they were wrong. Then I went out. I went out a long way. I was - by this stage I was pretty much 'gone' by this stage.
(Do you want to say what happened?)
No. I'd rather not. Can I just say I was 'removed' and I'd like to leave it at that.
(Okay. Did anyone there do anything wrong - by not supporting you, saving you?)
No. No. No. Absolutely not. It was my decision to go there. I was actually talked out of it - I was told not to, but I did.. Stubborn person that I was.
(Do you regret going in there?)
I regret for myself, going in there. I would have liked to have held onto life. I was enjoying life. I was enjoying my popularity. I believe I was doing good things. And I enjoyed MY life. Some may judge me harshly with who I spent time with, or didn't spend time with. But that's MY choice, the same as anyone reading this makes their own choices. Don't judge yourself too harshly. But I enjoyed my life, and for that reason, I wish things were different. I think politically, it's a different story. I think politically it probably wasn't a bad thing. I think with my departure, there was a bit more common sense brought into government. A bit more logic, and bit more common sense. Definitely not popularity. But possibly a better man for the job....
He shakes my hand. His hand is large, solid, firm, rough. Larger than mine. A firm shake. He doesn't shake up and down much. He almost holds still and squeezes and a slight shake of the wrist. A non-showy handshake. A respectful handshake....
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Medium Phil G shares information on how ordinary people can contact family in the Afterlife themselves, and verify it. (see philg.net.au). He also provides 'conversation'-style messages from the Afterlife. From time to time, famous spirits share information with him, to share as appropriate to spread the wonderful message: Family who have passed away are still with you.
